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it's all kinda basic really [16 Feb 2007|11:39am]

evilgrins
[ mood | productive ]

Maybe it's my whole acknowledging more than one God thing but when you come right down to it there's a little something funny in the water here. I mean the Greeks had the god Zeus and his extended family to worshipm the Norse had Odin and his extended family to worship, the Wiccans have Gaea, the Egyptians...you get the idea. It's pretty much a deity and his or her bretheren guarding over a specific group of people.

When Moses popped up with his whole "Let my people go!" riff he was a representative of their god (who is generally just known as 'God'; it;'s all about the capital G wth this one). The Egyptians did not discredit the existance of this deity but simply labelled It has was appropriate from their point of view; God of the Jews.

Time goes on, things change, a nice wholesome virgin girl gives birth to Jesus/Yeshua/whatever name you choose to refer to him by; the son of God (big G). For the longest time I didn't wholly buy that the Christians, as a whole, believed Jesus was actually God given flesh and not just the son of...but a post I made to that effect a couple weeks back has shown otherwise. However, this does represent a mildly odd problem when you think about it...

...least when I do.

The Jews worship God.

The Christians worship Jesus.

While it can be argued, and it is by many of them, that the Christians acknowledge that Jesus is in fact God (little g)...the Jews do not share this opinion. Seeing as it was their God (big G) first then it stands to reason they should be the authority on this.

So which way do we look here?

Jesus and God are different beings, said so by the different people that worship them. The Chrisitians can toss up that "Holy Trinity" bit as much as they like but without the faith that God originated from backing the concept (an oddly polytheistic "3 as 1" concept no matter how you slice it) then it can not be used as an irrefutable fact.

Thoughts?

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Ridiculous Religious Question of the Week [28 Jan 2007|01:36pm]

evilgrins
[ mood | silly ]

8:57 AM 1/28/07 · It kind of started with I am woman, hear me roar but I can never remember what the sound that came after that was. I mean, if it were I am man, hear me roar I'd expect it to be followed by a massive belch. From the 2nd Batman movie it was I am Catwoman, hear me roar and I'm pretty sure that was followed by a "Meow".

It's an empowerment thing.

Bet you're wondering what the Hell does this have to do with religion.

The way I see it Jesus was a pretty empowered guy: son of God, walked on water, raised the dead, great at party tricks; the guy had it going on. So naturally, goofy freak that I am, I had to ask myself...

...what would Jesus say in this kinda circumstance.

Sadly, I'm drawing a blank.

Fortunately I have all of you!

Please fill in the blank:

I am Jesus, hear me roar ________

How would Jesus roar?

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Funny Ha Ha [21 Jan 2007|07:21pm]

evilgrins
[ mood | giggly ]

I suspect there are a lot of them out there but I only know a couple. With all the humor that seems to surround Jesus, in the form of standup comedy and stuyff we pick up in school, you'd think there'd be a lot of them. Short of cracking open a joke book and going to the religious humor I can't name that many...

...but as I said, I know two.

Warning: contents may be sacriligiousCollapse )

Do you know any Jesus jokes?

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this kinda stuff comes to me when I'm on the toilet [19 Jan 2007|03:47pm]

evilgrins
[ mood | I'm a little acidic ]

Preamble: So far as I remember God never appeared in human form to anybody. I'm not one that believes Jesus was God in human form but even if that were the case that would be God as Jesus but not God as God. God appeared to people as a burning bush and a ray of light and possibly some animal representation in one form or another. I'm sure there were many others...but God as God never appears to people as a person.

Question: If God never appeared to people as a person then why is it that it was so long the viewpoint of many to picture God as a very old man with a long flowing beard?

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Personally I say yes! [12 Jan 2007|04:39pm]

evilgrins
[ mood | weird ]

Was having one of my usual odd religious chats, sparked by my always bizarre religious posts, when this came up. Because of it, rather that going on into an extensively lengthy post (preamble is my family's genetic curse), I have one simple question for you.

Can God be sexy?

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a couple other posts of mine inspired this one [08 Jan 2007|10:43am]

evilgrins
[ mood | such a headache ]

9:48 PM 1/7/07 · I'm rather well known for a number of things. There's the fact I tend to ask direct and blatantly raw questions, oftimes none that anyone thought to put forth before. There's also the fact I'm something of a big goofball. Together they aren't a deadly combo but one should be wary nonetheless.

While I don't post every bizarre religious query to every single religious comm I'm a member of...I do post stuff across the board quite a bit. The responses I tend to view as holy wars...not just because I find the sudden outpouring of information to be happy inducing, evn the stuff I don't necessarily agree with, but because of the number of arguments/debates that erupt in the threads of each of these communities. Course, I get a number of people that end their comments with "I'll pray for you" which is nice and all but kinda gives the impression that because I came up with the initial post there's something worrisome or wrong with me.

Not so sure I'm thrilled about that but I'll take what support I can get.

A stretch back I put a list together of a bunch of random thoughts regarding Jesus, one of which was that I kinda hoped he at least knew the pleasure of a woman sometime before his crucifixtion. It was not intended to be sacriligious, nor as an insult to his image in any way...I just thought it would've been nice. It's kind of the beauty of random thoughts.

That whole random element thingamabob.

Last week I put up a post wondering what is it about a rabbi that they can have sex and marry but a priest cannot. The answers were very helpful in that but it brought up an interesting point which kinda reminded me on that little bit from my list. The defining point was that a priest and a rabbi aren't exactly the same thing...that a rabbi is more of a teacher than a religious officiary. Also that it is one of the guiding principles, from the Torah and by extension the Bible, that we should be fruitful and multiply. Hence...rabbis are bit with the multipliying.

You know, there could be a good pun in there for the similarity between rabbi and rabbit seeing as bunnies are all about multiplication.

Now while the people that followed the teachings of Jesus, a hundred or so years after his passing, are Christians he was not. Jesus was Jewish and a simple man...once you get passed that whole Son of God bit. I've never bought into the whole Lord & Savior bit because while I do accept the latter the former is quite askew to me. He wasn't a lord, the man never wanted special treatment and set it aside when it was offered. He was very charismatic and insightful and, above all else, a teacher.

Jewish...

Religious...

Teacher...

...I say Jesus was a rabbi.

Besides the teaching and other things that go with the title...there's that whole "fruitful & multiply" clause.

There's been a lotta debate since his time to now that Jesus might've had siblings, that Joseph & Mary had other children. Wouldn't it be even more interesting if Jesus himself had children. Be it with the ever controversial Mary Magdelyne or some other nice lady that made that special connection with the guy...I for one find the concept that Jesus may've had his own family and children to be a beautiful thing.

So, why is it that so many seem to find the concept of Jesus going to the happy place (having sex) being a bad thing/sacriligious/an affront to God? I mean he has a wife, they do the deed, there's children...

...what a concept to have the descendents of God wandering around the world to this day.

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Happy Holidays! [22 Dec 2006|11:15am]

evilgrins
[ mood | silly ]

In my continued quest to come up with a question that no one can quote scripture at me for...

Let's say, hypothetically, God pops up in front of you and asks for a cookie. What kind would you get?

Obviously there's no wrong answer to this but feel free to explain your response.

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Spiritual Humanism [08 Dec 2006|09:16pm]

ghoststrider
Seeing as how this is a community about all kinds of religions, I want to put this post here and not on other atheism sites. Turns out atheism isn't all that united.

Anyways, I'm a Spiritual Humanist. Not a Secular Humanist, but a Spiritual Humanist. Those are actually two entirely seperate links. In any case, what I want to know is what people think about this life stance, and also answer me this question: is humanism a religion? I think that sometimes it approaches that state, even though it defiantly says NO.
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I may wander a bit here [04 Dec 2006|11:00am]

evilgrins
[ mood | energetic ]

I've never fully gotten why God decided, for however long It was sitting there before the idea came to mind, to make us. Yes, it's the age old "Why are we here?" with a bit of a twist but I really don't see the point.

Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy to be here...this is not a complaint. It just doesn't make any sense.

God is supposedly all knowing (oniscient) and all powerful (omnipotent) so it's not like It was lacking anything prior to our being on the scene. I've heard people say that we are here to love God but that just makes the Big Huy seem overly vain and narcissistic. Others say that we're a part of a puzzle and that at some undisclosed point in the future we'll do something that will give God a clue...

...course, both of these kinda fall in the face of the omnipotent & omniscient aspects.

My age old desire to be buried with a baseball bat so that when I get up there I can give God a piece of my mind and bash It in the big toe...

*interrupt*

...notwithstanding my belief that the "made in his image" bit meant more soul and not form; I keep the image in my head that God's an amorphous purple blob with a large unblinking eye just off center...

*we bring you back to the previously viewed rant*

...for not leaving clear and concise directions. You'd think such a divinity would've been able to leave better directions than the confusing mess that is the average VCR instruction manual. Actually, compared to most religious texts, VCR directions make a lot more sense.

GAH!

Okay, rant done. May not've made much sense but I gotta goto work now.

Why do you (yeah you) think we're here?

in my continued quest to write something no one can quote scripture at me for

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using the name in vain [28 Nov 2006|04:39pm]

evilgrins
[ mood | mischievous ]

This post has been edited by multiple evil LJ·cuts to spare the innocent!

9:14 PM 11/7/06 · I was watching something with a lot of priests in it and I got rather fixated on this. When something really bad happens or whatever they have this tendency to cross themselves, grab some beads and rub them, and say something along the lines of "Great God" or "By all that is Holy" or any number of other things. So, I'm wondering if it's not having beads or not crossing yourself that makes it bad if you belt out a whopping profanityCollapse ) or something like that. I mean the Holy implies a certain level of godliness but to the best of my knowledge no one worships wasteCollapse ).

Granted, most folks mean things a bit more harsh than this sorta thing. More like vainCollapse ) Now I've really never understood why that one's taking the name in vain at all. First off, it's the guy's name...or more a name and title association sorta deal. Still though, where's the harm? It's not like he's peeking down from on High and getting his nose all scrunched up whenever his name is uttered by someone as an exclamation that doesn't happen to have one of those tasteful little white collars.

Let's try a particularly baddie. Some folks are rather fond, for the littlest thing, of shouting out with much anger pestilanceCollapse ) which admittedly is pretty bad but more from a potty mouth perspective than in trying to get the Big Guy peeved at us. There are those that go the extra mile and toss in the far famed "F" word to make profanityCollapse ) which is just ever so lovely.

Does it really make that much difference for an officiary of the church to say this kinda stuff what with the crossing themselves and the beads and the rest of the accoutraments? I mean, such a person is probably not ever going to say profanityCollapse ) but if they did would it be better for them to do so than Joe Schmoe after he stubbed his toe?

Why is this so bad?

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Why Jesus for God's sake? [16 Nov 2006|09:06am]

evilgrins
[ mood | crazy ]

12:05 PM 11/12/06 · It's so interesting how the littlest thing can cause conflict. Christianity is, more or less, Judaism with just the tiniest difference in opinion regarding who the Messiah is. I've even heard it said that there are those that think the fact that the heads of the Hebrew faith, back then...not now, were backing the Roman Empire in executing Jesus might also be a fair point of contention.

Let's ignore most of that for just a sec.

The Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah, sometimes referred to as Jesus H. Christ even though I'm fairly certain that is not the family name that Mary & Joseph ever used, but his own people don't...

...or didn't...

...pick a tense.

So, what I'd like to know is what is it the Hebrew faith, and the Jewish people since it seems even the unfaithful were looking forward to the arrival, thought Jesus was lacking so as to not be the Messiah. Religions, regardless of what form they take, are really big with signs and omens and qualities. It seems likely that there were supposed to be a number of events, qualities in the person, sigils, and God knows what else so that when the Messiah popped up everybody would know.

Only everybody didn't know.

So, that brings us to some interesting questions:

  • Does anyone know how the Messiah was supposed to be known prior to Jesus popping up?

  • How long was Jesus alive before the Messiah tag was attached?

  • When Jesus was established as the Messiah what was it about him that made some of the faithful disbelieve this?

  • On the offchance they make another movie, and you know they will, who do you think should play Jesus?

Okay, maybe not so much that last one.

Not that I necessarily think Jesus was the Messiah...frankly I don't care one way or the other. He was a very great guy who had some very important things to say and that's good enough for me.
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Not what you came with but what you've done [13 Nov 2006|10:10am]

evilgrins
[ mood | indescribable ]

1:00 PM 11/12/06 · I've never been a big fan of an ancient belief, that is still practiced in the world today, that the sins of the father are visited upon his children. It's not limited in scope to just that, pretty much any ancestor done wrong and the descendents get blamed.

What a crock of *insert appropriate word here*!

Not surprisingly, to me at any rate, as an extension to this I don't believe in original sin. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Sure, folks sin but they shouldn't be blamed for the sins of others just because of some distant familial line. If I'm not mistaken, the whole original sin package stems from either Adam & Eve (snacking on the fruit of knowledge) or Cain killing Abel (nothing like a little sibling rivalry).

Either way, their sins were their sins. No one elses.

However, people do sin; it's a thing! There does seem to be some waywardness in what is and isn't a sin depending on a person's belief system. However, let's keep this fairly simple.

What are your sins? Yeah, you...the person reading this. If you're so gung ho on everybody sinning then you must have some idea what your own sins are.

Care to share with the class?

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admittedly silly [24 Oct 2006|09:48am]

evilgrins
[ mood | silly ]

What's the Bible's stance on pets? Will Sparky be up in Heaven waiting for us? Damned loyal and good natured as cats go. What about my dog Heidi; will we be able to play fetch there? Well, her version which is I toss the ball and she goes after it and then I chase her down and wrestle the goopy tennis ball outta her jaws.

It's a thing.

Do pets, and animals in general, make it to Heaven?

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God made me goofy [09 Oct 2006|10:37am]

evilgrins
[ mood | curious ]

Do you suppose Jesus was a cat person or a dog person?

Why do you feel this way?

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Thoughts on God [05 Oct 2006|11:12am]

evilgrins
[ mood | stressed ]

Figured this was as good a day for this as any seeing as, for some reason beyond the ken of man, livejournal posts hit an all·time low on Thursdays.

before you look under here keep in mind that God made me this wayCollapse )

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new webcomic about the afterlife [29 Sep 2006|03:45pm]

thelucyfurr
Hi everyone,

Silent Devil Comics is hosting a new weekly webcomic called "the After-Lifers" that I thought members of this community would be interrested in.

link

There is also an LJ RSS Feed here

I hope you all enjoy it!
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[07 Aug 2006|10:12am]

ash346
Hi,
I have never been religious but now am trying to learn more about religion, especially Christianity.
I have a question that friends of mine couldn't answer: why does Jesus help only those who accept Him?
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Mennonites [17 Jul 2006|10:31pm]

nodoubtgrrlie
Hi everyone, I'm new here. I'm an anthropology student who is gearing up to do her undergraduate thesis. My research topic is prenatal healthcare and birth, and I'll be studying this in a rural Mennonite community. The problem is I don't really know anything about the Mennonite religion, beliefs, traditions, etc. I know that there are Mennonites who are more conservative than others, but I'm not sure what the people I will be working with are like.

So I'm hoping that someone here will have a recommendation of any fair and balanced sources on the religion so I can read up and build my bibliography. Academic books and articles would be preferred, but websites and popular press books would also be very helpful!

Thanks everyone
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Delete if inappropriate. [27 Sep 2005|05:38am]

max_headroom


The Great evolution debate of 2005 started just a few minutes ago over at convert_me.
It should be fun. Bring your opinions but follow the rules.
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islamic art [19 Aug 2005|07:45pm]

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ru_islamic_art
welcome!
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